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China, U.S. intransigence over climate policy hijacks Bali talks

A face off between the world’s largest greenhouse-gas spewers has taken center stage at the UN Climate Change Conference in Bali, and China appears to be winning its public-relations battle with the U.S.

China has reiterated it will not consider mandatory emissions cuts until the U.S. and other industrialized countries such as Canada embrace a less-extravagant lifestyle. The U.S. is standing pat in its opposition to mandatory limits.

Although both countries have dug in their heels, China, which many believe has already surpassed the U.S. as the world's top emitter of heat-trapping gases, is now seen as playing a constructive role on global warming after years of dodging the issue.

In that scenario, the U.S. is losing friends fast.

Instead of mandatory cuts, the Bush administration wants individual countries to set their own goals. It also favors private-sector initiatives to develop energy-saving technology and alternative sources such as ethanol, and says industry should devise ways to burn coal and other fossil fuels more cleanly.

The U.S. rejected Kyoto, which commits three dozen industrialized countries to cut their greenhouse gases an average of 5 percent below 1990 levels between next year and 2012, largely because developing countries such as China, India and Brazil were not required to cut emissions.

Though it also rejects binding cuts, China has expressed support for a post-Kyoto agreement and used the Bali conference to show it is doing something to address climate change, like boosting renewable energy use to 10 percent by 2010 and improving efficiency by 20 percent. It also has launched a massive tree planting program and rolled out a national climate change policy.

U.S. climate chief Harlan Watson has denied the U.S. feels isolated at Bali , but European nations have nevertheless vowed to boycott U.S.-led climate talks next month unless Washington accepts a range of numbers for negotiating deep reductions in global-warming emissions, and Canada has agreed to accept mandatory targets and work with the UN on worldwide greenhouse-gas reductions.

Noting the bitter divisions at Bali, former Vice President Al Gore urged delegates to adopt an open-ended deal that could be enhanced after the Bush Administration leaves office and United States policy changes.

There’s no question any climate-change accord is meaningless without the participation of China, India and other developing countries. But it’s also meaningless without the U.S., which would be in a far better position to persuade other emitters to take on greater commitments if it had shouldered its own responsibilities.

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FEMACK. +1; Thu, 2007-12-13 11:48; Something got lost in translation here

Am I reading this correctly? The link to "Canada has agreed to accept mandatory targets" went to an article containing this clip: "It is incumbent upon us to act immediately," Rob Renner, Environment Minister from Canada's western province of Alberta, told reporters in Bali. "We believe very strongly we have an obligation to begin these negotiations."

Shouldn't that be a headline?

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VJ. +1; Thu, 2007-12-13 11:54; I have not found anything
VJ

I have not found anything elsewhere about Canada changing its position, so maybe the reporter at the link got it wrong? The Bali blog at the David Suzuki Foundation talks about Baird not being clear in his speech. He's a career politician and practiced at talking bafflegab I'm sure.

#140281
VJ. +1; Thu, 2007-12-13 12:10; This Globe and Mail article
VJ

This Globe and Mail article suggests Baird & Co. do not have thier act together.

...“I don't think a 50-per-cent reduction globally by 2050 is enough,” Mr. Baird told reporters. “We're prepared to go to 60 or 70 per cent. If we get all the big emitters on board, I think we can do more by 2050. … But we can only do it if we get everyone else on board.”

A senior Canadian official, however, seemed to undercut Mr. Baird's promises by sending reporters a copy of an Australian newspaper article in which business groups warned of “catastrophic economic effects” if the 25- to 40-per-cent target is adopted...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071213.wbali13/BNStory/Front

#140282
Pangloss. +0; Thu, 2007-12-13 12:19; But hasn't this been Baird's
Pangloss (not verified)

But hasn't this been Baird's - Harper's - position all along?

What's been left off the most recent announcement is the qualifier(s) to both Harper's Commonwealth statements and Baird's Bali chit-chatting. It is an old trick - we'll agree to the mandatory conditions as long as there is unanimous consent and they apply to all equally.

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VJ. +1; Thu, 2007-12-13 12:24; The reporter at the link
VJ

The reporter at the link about Canada seems to think Canada is standing up to the US and others, but I think she has it wrong. In the Globe & Mail article, Baird is whining about Canada needing a special condition because we do more than 80% of our trade with one partner; in other words, trying to justify the Conservatives' cowardly, sycophantic behaviour toward the US.

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There is a vast difference between putting forth a point of view, honestly held, and intentionally sowing the seeds of confusion. Free speech does not include the right to deceive. Deception is not a point of view. And the right to disagree does not include a right to intentionally subvert the public awareness.

Although all public relations professionals are bound by a duty to not knowingly mislead the public, some have executed comprehensive campaigns of misinformation on behalf of industry clients on issues ranging from tobacco and asbestos to seat belts.

Lately, these fringe players have turned their efforts to creating confusion about climate change. This PR campaign could not be accomplished without the compliance of media as well as the assent and participation of leaders in government and business.

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