Gore urges U.S. Congress to take speedy action on global warming

Wed, 2007-03-21 11:28Bill Miller
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Gore urges U.S. Congress to take speedy action on global warming

In a return he described as emotional, Gore testified before House panels that it is not too late to deal with climate change “and we have everything we need to get started.” He said it will require a ban on any new coal-burning power plants, which lack state-of-the-art controls to capture greenhouse gases.

Gore also said he foresees a revolution in small-scale electricity producers for replacing coal, likening the development to what the Internet has done for the exchange of information. He also advocated tougher fuel-economy standards for cars and trucks.

Gore has gained international recognition with his Oscar-winning documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth,” as perhaps the leading spokesman on global warming.

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Former Vice President Al Gore, despite being given major preferential treatment, has violated the Senate Environment & Public Works Committee’s (EPW) hearing rules.

Gore first demanded to be granted an unprecedented 30 minute opening statement to the Senate EPW Committee for Wednesday’s (March 21) global warming hearing scheduled for 2:30 pm ET.

The GOP minority on the EPW committee agreed to the 30 minute opening statement.

But then Gore demanded a waiver of the EPW committee’s 48 hour rule that requires all witnesses before EPW to submit their testimony in advance. The GOP minority on the EPW committee then agreed to waive the 48 hour rule in favor of allowing Gore to submit his testimony 24 hours before the hearing.

But in a breaking news development on Capitol Hill – the former Vice President has violated the new 24 hour deadline extension by failing to submit his testimony – even with the new time extension granted to Gore.

As of 8pm ET Tuesday evening, the testimony still has not been received by EPW, a clear violation of committee rules.

The word on Capitol Hill says not to expect Gore’s testimony to the Senate EPW committee until Wednesday (March 21) – the day of the hearing.

It appears that Gore does not believe the same rules apply to him that apply to every other Senate EPW witness.

The question looms on Capitol Hill: Is Gore delaying the submission of his testimony until the very last moment because he fears it will give members of the EPW committee time to scrutinize it for accuracy?

At 9:29AM ET Wednesday – after the issue was raised by Fox News Channel – former Vice President Gore’s testimony was received by the Senate Environment & Public Works Committee. Gore’s testimony was given to Committee members just one minute before his scheduled House appearance and mere hours before his scheduled Senate appearance.

This is BS. You (as well as Marc Morano and James Inhofe) are trying to distract us from doing what needs to be done to combat climate change.

WHO BLOODY CARES ABOUT A LITTLE PROCEDURAL ISSUE WHEN THIS PLANET IS OVERHEATING!!! WE NEED TO ACT NOW BEFORE PLACES LIKE MIAMI, LOS ANGELES, NEW ORLEANS (again), VANCOUVER, HALIFAX, LONDON, SHANGHAI, CALCUTTA, AMSTERDAM, RIO DE JANEIRO, TOKYO, SYDNEY, AND MUMBAI ARE FLOODED DUE TO SEA LEVEL RISE CAUSED BY A WARMING OCEAN (due to thermal expansion) AND MELTING GLACIERS AND ICE CAPS WHICH WILL LEAD TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE REQUIRING TO MOVE (if they actually have the ability, that is)!!!

The time for partisan bickering is OVER! Al Gore is correct (which has been affirmed by the scientists at RealClimate.org). People like Morano, Inhofe, Crichton (who is a bloody fiction writer, for Pete’s sake!), Singer, and Ball are wrong (and their loopy ideas are contrary to the IPCC’s findings).

(Sorry for the caps, but I’ve had enough of the low-life tactics of those who wish to continue with the status quo.)

Too bad that Senator Barbara Boxer didn’t use her gavel in the way it is supposed to be used, i.e. hitting idiots over the head with it.

Ian Forrester

Senator Inhofe probably wouldn’t have felt it if Barbara Boxer had rapped his noggin with the gavel, so wooden-headed was his performance yesterday. Inhofe asked Gore a really good question: How Calamity Al reconciles his predicted sea level rise of 23 feet with the IPCC’s prediction of 23 inches? But instead of letting Al answer, Inhofe blabbered on in some sort of mini-filibuster and let Gore off the hook by having Boxer intervene. I would loved to have heard Gore’s reply just as I would love to hear his replies to a host of other questions climatologists have asked about the alleged scientific claims in his movie.

John, your problem is that you refuse to actually listen. What Gore said about the sea level rise, if you actually paid attention, was that if the Greenland ice sheet were to melt, that sea levels would rise an average of 6 or 7 metres and that a similar rise would occur if the West Antarctic ice sheet were to melt. He never said that this would happen by 2100 or thereabouts. It was purely a hypothetical situation.

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might have some scientists posting there, but, as we all know, it is another AGW alarmist PR and spin site.

Johan wrote “Unrealclimate.org might have some scientists posting there, but, as we all know, it is another AGW alarmist PR and spin site.” Now if Johan had made that statement about RealClimate.org, then Johan would be a liar.

Anyone intelligent who visits RealClimate.org and reads a few of the posts and discussions will soon realise that it is about the science, not about politics or PR or spin. They occasionally talk about media reports in order to criticise faulty science in them. http://www.realclimate.org/

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Your first clue that someone is talking pure gobshite, as they say, is “as we all know”, the central website with the most up-front and clearly presented climate science is “PR and spin site”.

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So you listen to a failed rich hypocritical politician like Gore, but you don’t listen to Crichton because he is a writer? Where is the logic in that?

Al Gore uses information received from and largely corroborated by other credible sources. His only contribution is to present that information in a clear and intelligent, if slightly simplistic way, and there’s nothing wrong with that. Clear thinking is what this debate needs.

Crichton, I assume, is equally credible…when he’s writing fiction. I’ve never read him, but he seems to have written a book about hype getting out of control, etc… Great. I’m sure it’s entertaining and true, in a general sense, to human nature. BUT…and this is the difficulty thing to understand, aparently… it’s FICTION. Just because it’s plausible, doesn’t mean it’s probable, or much less: proven.

The greater part of the denierists’ position right now seems to rely on this fictional meta-narrative of a world gone out of control, and all the “facts” (or better yet, non-facts) are drummed up to serve it.

Oh…that and ad hominems like “failed rich hypocritical politician”.

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Someone is quoting Crichton as an authority again? Right. Do you mean the state-of-confusion Crichton, or the friend-of-tobacco Crichton?

 

But better not argue with him! No phoney death threats required.

 

“Michael Crichton character” link

 

Great guy to quote.

 


 

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In 2003, author Michael Crichton called out the tobacco smoke scare mongering in a widely noted address at Cal-Tech on the topic of scientific fallacies of the day. Crichton observed that pressure-group tactics and an appeal to consensus, the notion that “everybody” believes something, has replaced actual scientific evidence in far too many public policy disputes. He explained:

In 1998, a Federal judge held that the EPA had acted improperly, had “committed to a conclusion before research had begun”, and had “disregarded information and made findings on selective information.” The reaction of Carol Browner, head of the EPA was: “We stand by our science….there’s wide agreement. The American people certainly recognize that exposure to second hand smoke brings…a whole host of health problems.” Again, note how the claim of consensus trumps science. In this case, it isn’t even a consensus of scientists that Browner evokes! It’s the consensus of the American people.
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As with nuclear winter, bad science is used to promote what most people would consider good policy. I certainly think it is. I don’t want people smoking around me. So who will speak out against banning second-hand smoke? Nobody, and if you do, you’ll be branded a shill of RJ Reynolds. A big tobacco flunky. But the truth is that we now have a social policy supported by the grossest of superstitions.

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Can you please give me the average 1900-1950, and then the average 1951-2000. Is the sea level rise rapidly increasing?
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The rate of sea level increase is accelerating at a rate of 0.013 ± 0.006 mm/year.

Church, J. A., and N. J. White (2006), A 20th century acceleration in global sea-level rise, Geophys. Res. Lett., 33, L01602, doi:10.1029/2005GL024826

The abstract of the paper can be read at:

http://www.agu.org/journals/scripts/highlight.php?pid=2005GL024826

Ian Forrester

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In order to find the Maldives did Axel Morner use his amazing dowsing skills? http://www.desmogblog.com/nils-axel-morner

Come to think of it, his skills in diving water will come in handy when the first catastrophic droughts hit!

It’s the least he could do for all of poor un-enlightened souls!

Seriously, where do you find these people?

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this one gives the recent increase only

obviously there are annual and multi-annual irregularities with weather variability, etc., and a strong lag

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It’s becoming more and more apparent that Al Gore has exaggerated the effects of climate change and his movie is filled with inaccuracies. Even many scientists are starting to publicly state the extremism of the climate change alarmists needs to be toned down - something that Littlemore and the others here at Smogblog should consider. Mike Hulme, Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research in the UK has raised the issue of the alarmists in several articles, including one on the BBC: (www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6115644.stm). In a recent letter to Nature magazine discussing media coverage of the release of the IPCC summary, Hulme wrote: “The four UK ‘quality’ newspapers all ran front-page headlines conveying a message of rising anxiety: “Final warning”, “Worse than we thought”, “New fears on climate raise heat on leaders” and “Only man can stop climate disaster”. And all nine newspapers introduced one or more of the adjectives “catastrophic”, “shocking”, “terrifying” or “devastating” in their various qualifications of climate change. Yet none of these words exist in the report, nor were they used in the scientists’ presentations in Paris:(www.tyndall.ac.uk/media/news/Naturehulme.pdf). Get it - none of that catastrophic language appears in the report. Of course, I assume all the alarmists here will now accuse Hulme of being funded by Exxon.
“catastrophic”, “shocking”, “terrifying” or “devastating”

What should it say, given the predictions from NASA and others? … localized, minor, no big deal? The press than turns a (so far unseen) mildy negative e-mail from a flamer into “five deaths threats”, “from global warming alarmists”, can certainly add “devastating” to a world-wide problem like the one forecast… no?

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