Bush Climate Plan Evokes a Global Yawn!

Thu, 2008-04-17 09:18Ross Gelbspan
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Bush Climate Plan Evokes a Global Yawn!

PARIS (Reuters) - The world needs tougher action to combat global warming than a plan by President George W. Bush to halt a rise in U.S. greenhouse gas emissions only by 2025, delegates at a climate conference in Paris said on Thursday.

South Africa, one of 17 nations at the two-day global warming talks that started on Thursday, called Bush's proposals “disappointing” and unambitious when many other industrialized economies are already cutting.

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What a complete twat!

“The growth in emissions will slow over the next decade, stop by 2025, and begin to reverse thereafter, so long as technology continues to advance.”

Apart from the conditional nature of this comment, continued growth in emissions until 2025 at the current rate will *GUARANTEE* death to all but a few hardy species on Earth.

The more politicians speak about technology the more virulently anti-technology I get. No solution is effective unless it delivers: technology since the industrial revolution has delivered us to the brink of catastrophe.

“The more politicians speak about technology the more virulently anti-technology I get. No solution is effective unless it delivers: technology since the industrial revolution has delivered us to the brink of catastrophe.”

… typed Keith Farnish, on his Internet connected laptop, while sitting in his warm, centrally-heated loft-style highrise condo, as the tears of despair dribbled down his cheek, causing his pancake makeup to run.

And what if he lives in a 100 year old 1 room apartment downtown typing this post on a 12 year old computer. I didnt realize you have divine power.

Actually I’m on a 5 year old computer powered by renewables. But that aside, technology has a very minor part to play in my life, and I have no faith in it as a solution.

The wood burner arrives in 4 weeks (seriously).

Keith www.theearthblog.org

Nice blog, Keith. I see you are a practising member of The End-Times Cult:

“Those That Survive

In another home – a little place in the west of Scotland, in southern Nigeria, or perhaps in the south of France – a family is sitting around their wood burner, talking about the news that they picked up in the local bakery. Power cuts in the cities, darkness along the roads, civil unrest and a government that wants to crack down on dissent. Time to bring the chickens in, perhaps; the wolves could be coming to the door. There is still some oil in the lamps and stocks of candles, but at this time of the year bed time is soon after tea: as the body clock of each family member takes its cue from the darkness outside, they pump some water for teeth and a wash, then snuggle into bed, leaving the embers glowing.”

Yowza! Now I’m a-scared.
I hate to break it to you, but Planet Of The Apes was a science fiction movie – not a documentary. Not that I want to discourage your borderline psychotic fantasies.

“But that aside, technology has a very minor part to play in my life, and I have no faith in it as a solution.”

No, you reject evil technology. But from your blog’s author profile, we get:

“Keith Farnish is an environmental writer and activist who, in a former life, was a business continuity and IT security manager. He lives in Essex, UK with his wife and two children.”

Right, so if you hadn’t been an “IT security manager”, you could just have easily provided for your family as a subsistence farmer, living in a mud hut? Unfortunately, that wouldn’t leave you much discretionary income to spend on a cache of automatic weapons and freeze-dried rations for your underground bunker, for when The End Times come. Hurray for technology!

“The wood burner arrives in 4 weeks (seriously).”

And you (seriously) believe that burning wood is less polluting than heating with electricity or natural gas? You’re pretty far gone, bro.

What dismays me about all of our technological wonders is that we have never developed the insight or wisdom to anticipate the long-term implications of these great inventions. Case in point: this morning’s headline that bisphenol A is going to be designated a dangerous substance. We have always just barged ahead without thoroughly assessing the risks. In some cases, it isn’t even risk, it’s just considering what we have to do to counterbalance the impact of something, such as educating people about birth control while eradicating childhood diseases. What’s led us to the brink of catastrophe is our own hubris, and unwillingness to look at all sides of “progress”.

Fern Mackenzie

“What dismays me about all of our technological wonders is that we have never developed the insight or wisdom to anticipate the long-term implications of these great inventions.”

Those darn wireless music boxes are the work of the devil, I agree! And just look at the mayhem caused by this new-fangled “steam engine”.

What dismays me, however, is that although people like you are acutely aware of our consistent inability to predict the future – incredibly, you have not the slightest hesitation or doubt in embracing the predictions of Gore and the Global Warming Cult.

So it would seem that, as long as the predictions are B-A-D, you accept them, though you don’t let history’s endless stream of failed apocalyptic visions slow you down one bit. Pretty inconsistent, don’t you think? Yet it does a lot to illustrate the psychology of End-Time cults, in general.

“Case in point: this morning’s headline that bisphenol A is going to be designated a dangerous substance.”

The bar for what is deemed “dangerous” just keeps getting lowered. If you think that’s bad, just wait until you find out the deadly truth about dihydrogen monoxide.

“We have always just barged ahead without thoroughly assessing the risks.”

Yup. I guess that explains why the world’s population has been decimated. Those few who do survive (after being exposed to horrific dangers like, uh, bisphenol A), are lucky if they live to their 25th birthday.

Back here, on planet Earth, on the other hand, the situation doesn’t seem so dire.

“What’s led us to the brink of catastrophe is our own hubris, and unwillingness to look at all sides of “progress”.”

Funny how we’re always described as being on the brink of catastrophe. Apparently we’ve been on this “brink” since the world began. Promises, promises, but you never deliver.

I was thinking more about the kind of approach that allowed thalidomide to get onto the market without adequate testing. Or using lead as a gasoline additive. But never mind. I don’t think this is likely to turn into a productive conversation, so I am going out to work in my garden.

Funny, I don’t recall ever being able to plant my peas this early before …

Fern Mackenzie

“Funny, I don’t recall ever being able to plant my peas this early before …”

Funny, I don’t recall there being a -25 degree windchill this late in April, like today, and yesterday, and …

Nobody’s planting peas around here, unless they use dynamite.

The last 3 days have been 24C or better.
I didn’t think it was that warm today, but a Detroit TV station said it was 75F at 5pm.

When will you learn that climate and weather are two completely unrelated things, or that Ontario does not equal Canada?

Like your -25 degree windchill doesn’t mean squat, gasoline breath?

and let Rob rot. Looks as though you’ve got another fine day up there in Windsor – get out & enjoy it, and don’t waste any time on the trolls’ blethering.

Maybe all of the environmental lead (from gasoline exhaust fumes, Rob) did something to damage his nervous system when he was little – perhaps he can’t help being a bit slow on the uptake.

Fern Mackenzie

Meanwhile, winter has returned to Calgary and all the people who put away their snow plows have had to dig them out again. But it’s not global cooling - it’s just Alberta weather.

Even VJ understands the rules of AGW:

When it’s warm outside – that’s climate, and conclusive proof of the Global Warming hypothesis.

When it’s cold outside – that’s mere weather, and can safely be ignored.

Rotting of Brain, you’re a liar.

A big, poopy-head liar.

There, there, VJ. Have a lollipop and run along.

to find out what the global data has to say, actually. I keep hearing that this was the coldest winter we’ve had for ages, but here the ground didn’t even freeze! Record snowfall has been held up as proof, but as anyone who has spent a winter in Alberta knows , the colder it is the less snow you get (I was there for three winters, and I know all about walking to work at -45C + windchill, with 0% humidity!). Anomalies all over the place (including being able to plant peas in April) don’t mean anything until all of the data is in.

Fern Mackenzie

I believe La Nina may still be around. We’ve had a lot of snow this weekend in Calgary, but it’s not that cold, -11C low at night, -5C high during the day. It just feels cold because it was warm enough for shorts just the other day.

She is still there, but getting weaker. There’s been quite a change in the last few weeks. http://tinyurl.com/39sgrx

Fern, scientists have known that BPA has negative health effects since the 1930’s. It was shown to be relatively non-toxic but interference with estrogens was found at that time.

The reason that these effects never became widely appreciated was because of the interference by fraudulent “research” companies who would provided any results the client wanted on demand, for a price of course.

BPA was “studied” by the Weinberg Group (among others no doubt) who gave it a clean bill of health. See:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Weinberg_Group

for information on this company.

They are currently under a congressional investigation spearheaded by Representatives John Dingell (D-MI) and Bart Stupak (D-MI).

‘Representatives John Dingell (D-MI) and Bart Stupak (D-MI) announced that their ongoing investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency’s handling of toxic chemicals will include the role of the Weinberg Group, a consulting firm hired by numerous chemical producers. Last week the Energy and Commerce investigations subcommittee asked the firm for documents related to its involvement in the scientific debate over bisphenol A (BPA) and perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), a chemical component of Teflon. The letter cited a 2006 publication by a Weinberg consultant in Environmental Health Perspectives that discounted the link between BPA and disease, and a 2003 letter in which the Weinberg Group promises PFOA manufacturer DuPont de Nemours and Co.that it will “harness, focus, and involve the scientific and intellectual capital of our company with one goal in mind—creating the outcome our client desires.” The company also promised to reshape the debate “by identifying health benefits of PFOA,” and “constructing a study to establish…that PFOA is safe.” This “raise(s) serious questions about whether science is for sale at these consulting groups, and the effect this faulty science might have on the public health,” wrote Rep. Dingell’.

From: http://cspinet.org/integrity/watch/200802111.html#5

This is just the tip of the iceberg of how the regulatory and approval system works in the US (and elsewhere).

It is hardly surprising that the average citizen is unaware of the problems with so many of our new technological products and processes. They are being fed a stack of fraudulent rubbish by the PR companies, the actual producers and political appointees in the government agencies.

It is no different to what is going on with the denial of AGW, lies, lies and even more lies.

No doubt people like Paul S/G will arrive on the scene to support this corrupt and incestuous relationship.

Ian Forrester

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