Climategate victims chide Heartland double standard

Fri, 2012-02-17 13:40Richard Littlemore
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Climategate victims chide Heartland double standard

A group of top-tier climate scientists who were victimized in the email theft known as Climategate has written to the Heartland Institute, sympathizing that the Institute is reading its own confidential documents in the public press, but chiding the “think tank” for how irresponsibly it dealt with the stolen emails.

In a letter printed in The Guardian, the scientists say,

As scientists who have had their emails stolen, posted online and grossly misrepresented, we can appreciate the difficulties the Heartland Institute is currently experiencing following the online posting of the organization’s internal documents earlier this week. However, we are greatly disappointed by their content, which indicates the organization is continuing its campaign to discredit mainstream climate science and to undermine the teaching of well-established climate science in the classroom.

The signatories were Michael Mann, Kevin Trenberth, Ray Bradley, Jonathan Overpeck, Ben Santer, Gavin Schmidt and David Karoly, a relative who's who of climate science excellence.

They point out that when the Climategate emails were stolen, Heartland took bits and pieces out of context (and, we would add, advocated for punitive action against the scientists on the basis of these manipulations). At no time did the institute suggest that the hackers who breached the East Anglia University security system to steal the emails had been in the wrong to do so.

In the case at hand, (and as Heartland explains in its own press release) an anonymous “Heartland Insider” asked the Institute to mail the entire briefing package for its January board meeting - and Heartland complied. Having received that package, the DeSmogBlog checked the content against research we had in hand to confirm its authenticity. Then we published it - in its entirety, so there could be no doubt about the context - on our website on Valentines's Day.

The scientists conclude their letter by saying:

“The Heartland Institute has chosen to undermine public understanding of basic scientific facts and personally attack climate researchers rather than engage in a civil debate about climate change policy options.

“We hope the Heartland Institute will begin to play a more constructive role in the policy debate. Refraining from misleading attacks on climate science and climate researchers would be a welcome first step toward.”

Comments

Just explain, give me the definitive publication, my first is in pure maffs (from a second division English Uni).  I fink that makes me quite smart.  Go on tell me how CO2 does it?

Of course I see a problem with the analysis, there is no proof.  Now it's not for me to provide counter proof, that's not and forgive me, how stats inference works.  So go for it, and I've heard all the 'go find it yourself' arguments.  Really I will trash any paper you have that links man to what the hell you are claiming to be happening. But hey just proffer it.

It's like a playground.  You guys are children.  Sorry mods just an observation.  I speak English, I know it's hard.

Jesus my cred is like a kids dribble count, +1 -1 0, ... Who cares. It's really really pathetic, I'd like -assymp totic to infinity by 3 GMT please. And more troll claims so DeSmog can ban me.

Anyway, lets get back to the topic in hand.  Is Heartland (alleged stuff) equivalent to UEA CRU shenanigans?

I don't think so David, What the CRU did is change the way the world wiewed this thing.  All of a sudden people with very little in their lives found a purpose for living.  Governments also found a purpose for taxing, it was utopia for the greens types and those parasitic types willing to use anything for gain.  Dave keep on. the negative scores mean nothing, if they ever get into complex number scores then take it seriously.  In the meantime continue with the good work

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I do a lot of computer modelling, forgive me if I put too many llll's in my words.   Models do exactly what you progam them to do and if you stretch the params they will give you the stretched resultant ideas.  Unfortunately these stretched ideas have become the expected. Recall the BBC's could be, would be, if it all went horribly wrong scenarios.  Who fed them that garbage, Jones, Trenberth, Mann et al I allegedly believe?

How do we all find out who these idiots are playing concensus games with credibility (dibble scores)?  All posters agree they are ...

I'm not sure what the time is on this forum is it GMT, CET or Gleick time?  My esteemed posts appear chronologically confused?

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Wow, thats some serious David Shaw spam. Couldn't maybe put all those thoughts into one post instead of spamming this site? Just a hint.

The ideology & confirmation bias is strong in this one.

 

 

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