Dennis Avery kills climate change AND Maggie Thatcher

Mon, 2008-07-21 12:52Richard Littlemore
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Dennis Avery kills climate change AND Maggie Thatcher

With characteristic attention to the facts, Dennis Avery, Monsanto’s man in the organic food debate, killed both climate change and former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in a post yesterday on his Centre for Global Food Issues website.

“Consensus on man-made warming is shattering,” Avery announced, basing this wild-eyed overstatement on last week’s story that:

Physics & Society, The journal of the 46,000-member American Physical Societ, just published “Climate Sensitivity Revisited,” by Viscount Christopher Monckton. Monckton is an avowed man-made warming skeptic, and former science advisor to the late British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. (My emphasis.)

This whole story is afloat in hogwash, a fact that APS President Arthur Bienenstock has been at pains to point out.

With characteristic attention to the facts, Dennis Avery, Monsanto’s man in the organic food debate, killed both climate change and former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in a post yesterday on his Centre for Global Food Issues website.

“Consensus on man-made warming is shattering,” Avery announced, following on with, 

The “consensus” on man-made global warming may have received a mortal wound.”

That “mortal wound” was the risible article submitted by journalist and failed political candidate Christopher Walter (the self-celebrating Third Viscount Monckton of Brnechley) to Physics & Society, an American Physical Society (APS) newsletter. Notwithstanding that APS has made it strikingly clear that a) Physics & Society is an in-house newsletter, NOT a professional journal; b) that Monckton’s article was not peer-reviewed; c) that it bears no reflection on the APS position, Avery reports:

Physics & Society, The journal of the 46,000-member American Physical Society, just published “Climate Sensitivity Revisited,” by Viscount Christopher Monckton. Monckton is an avowed man-made warming skeptic, and former science advisor to the late British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. (My emphasis.)

Avery’s characterization of Monckton’s paper is clearly hogwash (a product that Avery would point out is rotten with e coli and to be avoided at all costs). Even Steve Milloy, another of Monsanto’s favourite spokesters, has acceded to reporting up-to-date information on the APS story. Milloy’s most recent post on his appropriately named JunkScience website carries a wonderful letter from APS President Arthur Bienenstock, who explains the current situation ever so patiently:

Some people and news services misinterpreted the Newsletter publication of one editor’s comments and Lord Monckton’s article as a retreat by the American Physical Society from its official position on the contribution of human activities to global warming. Consequently, the APS felt it necessary to ensure that its official position was known both to those who logged on to the APS website and those who had followed a link to Lord Monckton’s article on our website and were unaware of the context in which it appears. That is the origin of the comment that appears at the top of the article on the website. I am sure that you would not want the Society’s position to be misunderstood in this important matter.”

(The last line should put permanently to rest the notion that physicists are not funny.)

Monckton and Milloy make their living by undermining public understanding of science. The fact that Milloy would post Bienenstock’s letter, almost without commentary, demonstrates (somewhat to MY surprise) that even he is committed to SOME standard of accuracy - a standard which Avery evidently feels no compulsion to maintain.


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Previous Comments

AGW is dead

So a well-known liar submits a letter to an editorial page and suddenly the deniers claim that the APS has reversed itself!

Let’s take a look at your new hero Viscount Monckton; He claims the his letter to the editor is a peer-reviewed research paper He claims to be a member of the House of Lords, yet he isn’t. He claims to be responsible for winning the Falklands war by telling the Ministry of Defense to introduce a “mild bacillus into the Port Stanley water supply” He claims to have invented a puzzle so difficult it would take 1 to 3 years to solve, yet large numbers of people solved it in under 5 months.

Oh and if you bothered to read his letter you would have noticed that he got exactly the same results as the IPCC report, but then (eq.17) mysteriously divided by 3 and the grandly proclaimed that see the IPCC results are too large by a factor of 3

It turns out AGW isn’t crumbling after all just the fools drinking their Kool-Aid while reading The Australian and listening to Adam Shand who doesn’t understand that summers are warmer than winters

The AWG crowd is sounding a bit shrill these days. Bummer about the arctic ice, cooling oceans, sea level decline, and earths overall temperature drop.

For Immediate Release Contact: Tawanda W. Johnson
Press Secretary
American Physical Society
Tel: 202-662-8702
Email: tjohnson@aps.org

American Physical Society Reaffirms Its Position that Human-Caused Greenhouse Gas Emissions Contribute to Climate Change

WASHINGTON, DC, July 22, 2008 – The American Physical Society http://www.aps.org/ (APS) today reaffirmed its position on climate change issued last November, releasing the following statement:

“Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate. The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring.

“Global warming and energy use have been on the minds of many Americans for quite some time. Recognizing the importance of these issues, the governing body of the American Physical Society announced its position on Climate Change on November 18, 2007. The Society’s position has not changed, and APS remains engaged in this issue that has considerable international consequences.

APS is reaffirming its policy on global warming because an article at odds with the official APS position recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS. This newsletter is not a scientific journal of the APS, and it is not peer reviewed.

“Online reports erroneously implied an APS policy change. These reports did not include the disclaimer, ‘Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum,’ which was attached to the newsletter article.”

Read the full APS Council statement on climate change:
http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/07_1.cfm

About APS
The American Physical Society is the world’s leading professional body of physicists, representing more than 46,000 physicists in academia and industry in the U.S. and internationally. It has offices in College Park, Md., Ridge, N.Y., and Washington, D.C.# # #

You were saying?

Much appreciated. 

Thanks for the invitation KMR

While AWGer’s are gathering about themselves barking feeble attempts to protect their goverment grants, reputations, and political lot, real science and a signifigant cooling trend is winning this debate…despite its being over.

Dr. Roy Spencer’s testimony in front of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee on 22 July 2008.

2. Global Warming Science: The Latest Research
Regarding the currently popular theory that mankind is responsible for global warming, I am very pleased to deliver good news from the front lines of climate change research. Our latest research results, which I am about to describe, could have an enormous impact on policy decisions regarding greenhouse gas emissions.

Despite decades of persistent uncertainty over how sensitive the climate system is to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels, we now have new satellite evidence which strongly suggests that the climate system is much less sensitive than is claimed by the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

(This testimony agrees in less technical terms what Lord Moncktons submitted to the APS.)

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=e12b56cb-4c7b-4c21-bd4a-7afbc4ee72f3

Science has a long history of dumping the wind out of political or religious sails.

What say you?

To bad Roy Spencer had to retract his comments because of errors in his study. Seems now that he corrected his errors, his results are in line with the IPCC results. Oh by the way your new hero The Viscount Monkton of Benchly is claiming he is a Nobel Laureate, although the Nobel Committee doesn’t seem to know that

How is the Monckton claiming he’s a Nobel Laureate?

“As a contributor to the IPCC’s 2007 report, I share the Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore. Yet I and many of my peers in the British House of Lords - through our hereditary element the most independent-minded of lawmakers - profoundly disagree on fundamental scientific grounds with both the IPCC and my co-laureate’s alarmist movie An Inconvenient Truth, which won this year’s Oscar for Best Sci-Fi Comedy Horror”.

http://www.globalwarmingheartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=22430

This clown is certifiably mad as a hatter.

Ian Forrester

A “contributor” to the IPCC report? How does the guy have the nerve to say such a thing? Even if he was on the list of reviewers (and I have never seen him allege as much in the past), it would be over the top to claim that entitles him to a share of the Nobel prize. By such logic, the DeSmogBlog could post Nobel laurels beside our logo on the strength of Kevin’s status as an IPCC reviewer.

And you’d think that Monckton would stop touting himself as being legitimately among the “peers in the British House of Lords.” As Tim Lambert has reported, Christopher Walter, the Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, doesn’t qualify as a hereditary member and when he ran for one of the elected seats last year, he lost.

But I think you do a disservice to crazy hatters by ascribing Monckton’s consistent inaccuracies to madness. The evidence suggests that he is, merely, a very bad liar.

So am I a Nobel Laureate now because I was an IPCC reviewer? Man, oh, man, it takes some really messed up logic to get the point where because I spent a few hours reviewing and making comments on the IPCC working drafts that I am in the same league of the IPCC scientists and Al Gore, who have dedicated their lives to climate change issue. 

They have crossed the line between being just obnoxious cranks to being certifiably mad.

The last place I would go looking for scientific information is a political hearing and listening to a “scientist” invited by that well known AGW denier, James Inhofe.

Ian Forrester

Thank you Ian…did I say shrill?

Correction, Ray. Knuckledragger is never shrill but often gutteral. His effusions can usually be condensed to “grunt, snort, snuffle.”

I don’t think he realizes the damage he does to what should and could be honest debate….even at this talking point site’s level.

Its odd and telling too that the APS posted here. So who has an agenda there?…a second thought, perhaps the post was lifted and posted here by someone trying to add legitimacy to this site.

Is Mr. Avery telling the truth about the American Physical Society’s position on this or not?
Stay on point.

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July 22, 2008
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APS Reaffirms Position on Climate Change

American Physical Society Reaffirms Its Position that Human-Caused Greenhouse Gas Emissions Contribute to Climate Change

WASHINGTON, DC — American Physical Society (APS) today reaffirmed its position on climate change issued last November, releasing the following statement:

“Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate. The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring.

“Global warming and energy use have been on the minds of many Americans for quite some time. Recognizing the importance of these issues, the governing body of the American Physical Society announced its position on Climate Change on November 18, 2007. The Society’s position has not changed, and APS remains engaged in this issue that has considerable international consequences.

APS is reaffirming its policy on global warming because an article at odds with the official APS position recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS. This newsletter is not a scientific journal of the APS, and it is not peer reviewed.

“Online reports erroneously implied an APS policy change. These reports did not include the disclaimer, ‘Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum,’ which was attached to the newsletter article.”

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The Hayek-inspired revolution was about to be completed as British Petroleum (BP) would be sold into private ownership.

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