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Dr. Tim Ball: The Lie that Just Won't Die

The deathless and - in many specific respects - completely fictional meanderings of Dr. Tim Ball have begun appearing again on right-wing blogs all over the net. At City Troll, at Convenient Untruth and at New Orleans Lady, the same tired and retreaded old climate rant paints Dr. Ball as the courageous victim of a plot to silence a well-meaning skeptic.

But Ball can't even tell the truth about his own resume. His claim to be the first Climatology Ph.D. in Canada is a total falsehood; his degree was in historical geography - not climatology - and it was nowhere near the first ever granted to someone writing vaguely in the field. It also was granted by the university as a doctor of philosophy, not the more prestigious "doctor of science" that Ball claims in these articles.

He claims as well to have been a professor (again of climatology) at the University of Winnipeg for 32 years, while he confirmed in his own Statement of Claim in a pending lawsuit (look here ) that he was a professor (of geography, never climatology) for just eight years.

Dr. Ball claims never to have been paid by oil and gas interests, but if you look here , you'll find a Globe and Mail story in which Dr. Barry Cooper, the man behind Ball's former industry front group, the Friends of Science , offers this clumsy admission: "[The money's] not exclusively from the oil and gas industry," says Prof. Cooper. "It's also from foundations and individuals. I can't tell you the names of those companies, or the foundations for that matter, or the individuals."

Here you'll find a podcast of Dr. Ball talking to the Ottawa Citizen , saying that he goes out of his way to ignore who might be paying his bills, but crediting the energy industry lobby firm, the High Park Group . And here, you'll find High Park Group veteran Tom Harris, telling the Toronto Star that his new industry front group, the Natural Resources Stewardship Project , was created at the suggestion of High Park Group president Timothy Egan.

Tom Harris, executive director of the NRSP, is credited by New Orleans Lady for passing along this version of the Ball tirade, also printed Monday on the right-wingy website, Canada Free Press. Yet all of these factual inconsistencies have been brought to Harris's attention on previous occasions.

It is inevitable that this post will be criticized as an ad hominem attack on dear Dr. Ball (and perhaps on Harris, as well). But how can you argue science with someone who doesn't feel bound by the limits of truth?

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has just endured an unprecedented process of vetting and peer-review to produce a document, the veracity of which has been double-checked and endorsed by thousands of the best scientists in the world. It must be soul-destroying to see a long-retired geographer who rarely published during his colourless academic career and who never conducted any research in atmospheric science dismiss that effort without a shred of evidence or a hint of good conscience.

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#24218
Anonymous. +0; Mon, 2007-02-05 16:58; Ok here's another ad
Anonymous (not verified)
Ok here's another ad hominem: the guy is a complete lunatic! He wouldn't be at all out of place on a show next to 'moon hoaxer' Ralph Rene and 'face on mars' Richard Hoagland. His falsehoods are so broad he must believe them. It's called calling a spade a spade.
#27327
Anonymous. +0; Sat, 2007-02-10 18:07; If he is such a lunatic, why
Anonymous (not verified)
If he is such a lunatic, why not attack the science rather than the man? I'm listening to both sides of the deluded debate on global warming and I don't think either side has a better lock on the facts than the other. Is this about finding the truth or electing the "right" people?
#29783
Anonymous. +0; Wed, 2007-02-14 14:52; You mean like this? Ball's
Anonymous (not verified)
You mean like this? Ball's attacks on real scientists with real training and real research are vile.

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=d622e9fa-cdc8-4163-8292-a1a554f58f94 Aussies' Suzuki heavier on rhetoric than on science Tim Ball For The Calgary Herald Wednesday, April 19, 2006 Unknown to most Canadians until this week, Australians have their very own David Suzuki, a self-promoting zoologist who has garnered a large and loyal following for his sensationalist views on climate change. Like Suzuki, Aussie zoologist Tim Flannery has no professional credentials in the field and so blunders regularly while pushing governments to save the world from global warming. Sadly, both men have considerable influence over politicians and their unscientific rhetoric is

blah blah blah spit fuss slobber
#710520
gpw. +1; Thu, 2009-12-10 19:46; Simple really
gpw

I don't need to read past this part of the Curriculum Vitae

"Richard Littlemore has been trained by Al Gore as part of The Climate Project, an initiative designed to educate the public about climate change."

professor al gore, one of the most TRUSTED and RESPECTED names in climate change

#40424
witkacy. +0; Wed, 2007-02-28 12:57; Prof. Ad Hominem
witkacy (not verified)
Ad hominem??? - You're joking, right? Take a look at this, for instance: Ball says of the IPCC Report that it's "the end product of a political agenda, and it is the political agenda of both the extreme environmentalists who of course think we are destroying the world. But it’s also the political agenda of a group of people ... who believe that industrialization and development and capitalism and the Western way is a terrible system and they want to bring it down..." Is there a whit of SCIENCE, in this critique?? If so, guess I missed it...Reads like whackadoo conspiracy-mongering, to me - a grand anti-capitalist cabal, a consensus of luddite commies...This man Ball is a crank, an industry whore with the same half-baked CV that all such whores possess--little wonder he padded it so...File him in the same garbage bin with the neo-creationists foaming at the mouth over the commie consensus on evolution--after all, those very same people are themselves declared enemies of global warming theory!
#53421
Anonymous. +0; Fri, 2007-03-23 17:30; Climate
Anonymous (not verified)
Al Gore has a scientific degree in ??????????????
#24258
slatham. +0; Mon, 2007-02-05 19:10; any recent news?
slatham (not verified)
Still not dead? How about any news on his lawsuit? I can't help but think the outcome of that should add a hefty nail in the coffin. Or maybe a stake through the heart. If he's as loony as he seems the court case could turn out to be quite embarrassing for him -- I just hope that it's well-appreciated by the media.
#24293
Anonymous. +0; Mon, 2007-02-05 21:45; Like it or not, there are
Anonymous (not verified)
Like it or not, there are many people who simply don't care that Ball has embellished his credentials. And while his fans like to invoke the "global warming as religion" metaphor, they happily accept anything Timmy has to say - even when he contradicts himself - with no yearning to examine the facts. Let us pray, eh?
#24493
DEW. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 06:33; It gets better...
DEW (not verified)

I suppose you've seen the "rebuttal" that's been liberally cut 'n' pasted around the denialist sites, from talk-radio host Neil Boortz. Nearly every item on his list embodies a logical fallacy or two, but I love that my favorite:
The polar ice caps on Mars are melting. How did our CO2 emissions get all the way to Mars?
seems to be getting the most attention. I was prepared to take it as tongue-in-cheek, but many seem to be taking at face value.

My second favorite:
There are about 160,000 glaciers around the world. Most have never been visited or measured by man. The great majority of these glaciers are growing, not melting.

This is what we're up against.

Of course, it's an article of faith that the UN is not to be trusted. After all, the IPCC scientists were the architects of the disastrous oil-for-food scam.

I suppose our friends, Johan I Kanada and ZOG, who are tireless defenders of intellectual rigour in the search for the truth, would make short work of a fraudster science denier like Boortz.

#24496
Anonymous. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 06:50; How is that an ad hominem
Anonymous (not verified)
How is that an ad hominem attack? The guy says he's a professor in climatology. He's not. He's a professor of geography. The guy says he's been a professor for 28 years. He hasn't been. He's been a professor of geography for 8 years and is already retired. The guy misleads and says he got a PhD in London. He neglects to say it's a PhD in philosophy and instead calls it a PhD in Science. The guy has never published a paper in scholarly peer reviewed journals on what is essentially global warming. The guy's whole argument centers upon him being an expert in the field. He's not. He was never really in the field. That's not an ad hominem attack. It's the substance of his argument. He says look at me, I'm a world leading expert on climatology. Therefore listen to me when I say global warming is political and not scientific. He's the one not giving substance. Therefore the argument goes to whether or not he's suited to make such claims. He is not. Pointing out someone is lying is not an ad hominem attack.
#24733
LAP. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 13:59; Doctorates Disambiguated
LAP (not verified)
I hold no brief for Dr. Tim Ball, but one of the allegations about him that I've seen repeatedly on this site about him is I think mistaken. The degree of Philosophiae Doctor (Doctor of Philosophy), usually abbreviated Ph.D., is NOT a degree that is awarded exclusively for studies in Philosophy. Rather, many universities confer the Ph.D. as their highest degree in a wide variety of fields. You can verify this easily by looking at any Canadian or US university's list of its faculty: academics in everything from Accounting to Zoology hold Ph.D.'s in those fields; and I assume the same may be true of climatologists. (Whether Dr. Ball is himself a climatologist is of course a different question.)

A related point: I have seen it asserted that the degree of "Doctor of Science" is a more prestigious one than a Ph.D. That may be the case, since in many universities the Doctor of Science degree is an honorary one -- it's awarded for non-academic contributions to the university and/or the community. So it's really irrelevant that Dr. Ball doesn't hold a Doctorate of Science -- neither do most academics.

What may have got people mixed up is that Dr. Ball's Ph.D. was awarded, as I understand it, by a Department of Geography, not a Department of Climatology. That may or may not be significant.

#24734
freelunch. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 14:27; Valid PhD
freelunch (not verified)
It is fairly clear that Tim is not an expert in the specific field, yet is willing to present himself as such, but his PhD is a science degree. He did get his doctorate in geography. All science doctorates, indeed almost all real doctorates, are called Doctor of Philosophy from the old concepts of what philosophy was. His PhD dissertation was entitled: _Climatic Change in Central Canada: A preliminary analysis of weather information from the Hudson's Bay Company Forts at York Factory and Churchill Factory, 1714-1850_. That's science. Still, it's quite clear that he has abandoned science for his corporate masters and will say whatever they want him to say.
#24784
Richard Littlemore. +1; Tue, 2007-02-06 16:34; PhD indeed; not ScD

You're quite right that Ball's Ph.D. is valid and the previous commenter is right that Doctor of Philosophy is the title that attaches itself to most degrees, scientific or otherwise.

Doctor of Science, however, is a degree of high honour, rarely accorded and only then to the truly outstanding. THAT's what Ball is claiming he has. And that, like much else that he claims, is not quite close enough to the truth.

#24522
sduford. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 08:38; Tim Ball
sduford (not verified)
I just posted on this too: http://tragicplanet.org/2007/02/06/timothy-ball-another-denier/ I found his letter on a free Wordpress blog: http://clint315.wordpress.com/2007/02/06/the-global-warming-scam/
#24769
Chris Zaharias. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 16:17; The data, not the messenger
Chris Zaharias (not verified)
For you priests of global warming, attacking the messenger seems much more to your liking than rationally attacking the message. Climate varies; you will be looked upon by future generations as CO2 Chicken Littles and that is how you will be remembered.
#24849
Anonymous. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 17:52; tobacco
Anonymous (not verified)
What part of 90 percent certainty do you not undestand? More likely Ball and his energy industry buddies will be remembered in the same way tobacco lobbyists were for telling us that tobacco smoke didn't cause cancer. Get a grip and read up, read the science for a while instead of the national post!
#25085
Hugh Campbell. +0; Wed, 2007-02-07 05:56; Isn't it expressed fully as
Hugh Campbell (not verified)
Isn't it expressed fully as a 90-99% per cent certainty in the IPCC report?
#27329
Anonymous. +0; Sat, 2007-02-10 18:12; So would your please tell us
Anonymous (not verified)
So would your please tell us what advanced degrees the authors of the IPCC report have? The actual authors, mind you.
#24858
Dr nonody. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 18:02; so where is it?
Dr nonody (not verified)
Where is Ball's science? The only publications in the last 10 years from Ball are opinion pieces in newspapers.

If ball is such a martyr for the deniers why doesn't orpose a hypthesis, test it and publish in a peer reviewed journal?

That's science, anything else is just got air from a has been retired crank that's getting more attention than he ever did in his career.
#24862
LAP. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 18:04; Nobody here but us Chicken Littles
LAP (not verified)
If being a "priest of global warming" means accepting the now entirely uncontroversial scientific consensus (1) that human activities, especially fossil fuel use, are major contributors to climate change; (2) that the observed and expected rates of change are greater than those experienced for many millennia; and (3) that the resulting effects are likely to be unpleasant for humans and many other forms of life, then I say Amen, brothers and sisters!

As for "attacking the messenger', in a sense that's the whole point of this website. Some messengers are paid liars, and they deserve to be exposed as such.

#24868
Anonymous. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 18:20; The data, not the messenger
Anonymous (not verified)
Sorry: which data?
#24881
Anonymous. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 18:30; Rather Chicken Little
Anonymous (not verified)
than a Big Turkey who ignores the best information available to him. Rather Chicken Little than a Big Turkey who's too proud to admit he's lost....
#24852
The Hairy Beast. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 17:55; Greetings
The Hairy Beast (not verified)
Greetings Enviroes!

Wonderful letter by Dr. Ball. The Beast has featured excerpts from it on his blog, with a little original commentary too - about two thousand words worth, with pics.

And how dare you think this is a blatant effort to draw hits to the site?

Happy Trails

THB

#24878
Ian Forrester. +1; Tue, 2007-02-06 18:28; Is it Ball or Bell?

Beast, you just show your ignorance of the whole subject when you refer to Ball as Bell. I can assume that this signifies the level of your competence in all other areas you discuss on your blog. Time to spend more time on your high school (or is it junior high school) classes, since you must have skipped a few to spend so much time on idle and incorrect chatter.

#24887
Dan. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 20:52; appeal to authority
Dan (not verified)
A point or correction is not "ad hominem" if it addresses the "argument by authority", or "appeal to authority". This claim was made in numerous talks and articles, as has been noted.

I am the first etc. etc. and have extensive background [in something barely related] etc. etc. and have an unbelievably long period of being so etc. etc. indicating my recognition, and I say that X, therefore you can believe X.

It is a perverse form of argument, which invites correction, even when it is used by a bonafide authority. The user of such an argument is often aware that he can deflect the truth by crying "ad hominem, ad hominem, they're picking on me personally". It is a cowardly defense for an unjustified method of persuasion, and no real scientist or anyone else trained in methods of discovery would ever use it. (It may be correct to apply in some cases of technology or skill, for example shoemaker, artist, judokan, mechanic, etc.) Similarly, no real scientist would be motivated to say, or would have to say, "I have an extensive background", so believe me, or "Few listen to me despite the fact that I was the first etc." What kind of reader or even camp follower could be convinced by such a claim, even if it were true?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority
#24935
Zog. +0; Tue, 2007-02-06 22:45; lap "Some messengers are
Zog (not verified)
lap "Some messengers are paid liars, and they deserve to be exposed as such." You mean like Hoggan's PR flacks?
#25007
Anonymous. +0; Wed, 2007-02-07 02:49; Ad Hominem!
Anonymous (not verified)

ZOG if you're going to be accusing others of ad hominem attacks, you should really not engage in your own. Doesn't do a whole lot for your credibility. Can you prove that Hoggan's PR flacks are paid liars? I'm all ears.

DAN The truth is, the "ad hominem!" defense is the only one still open to most deniers. Sadly, they chose their version of the truth for non-scientific reasons--generally it's libertarian ideology, sometimes it's a xenophobic hatred of environmentalists, often its both--and that truth is crumbling around them. Going on the attack with their "ad hominem" claims, or their "priests of global warming" actually helps them avoid a much more painful reality: the unravelling of their whole worldview. There's a lot more at stake for them than we realize. I would feel sorry for them if they weren't so mean-spirited, or if they weren't messing around with my children's future.

#25086
zig. +0; Wed, 2007-02-07 05:56; what lies?
zig (not verified)
If you're going to dabble in ad hominem at least be factual.

For example, you are a numbskull (ad hominem) for making baseless accusations that you cannot back up (fact).

See how that works?
#25603
City Troll. +0; Wed, 2007-02-07 19:00; Littlemore
City Troll (not verified)
Littlemore than just another Chicken Little LOL
#26019
Richard Littlemore. +1; Thu, 2007-02-08 09:07; Oooh, an outbreak of wit
... good one, City Troll
#58807
Jens Rathenau. +0; Mon, 2007-04-02 07:33; Tim Ball
Jens Rathenau (not verified)
Figures never lie, liars always figure. This certainly applies to Richard Littlemore's (apt name) attack on Tim Ball. First of all, Tim Ball's PhD in geography was entirely appropriate and his dissertation on the climate changes in Canada did indeed make him the first climatology PhD in Canada. He was also a professor of climatology at the University of Winnipeg in the Department of Geography. Again, an appropriate placing of a climatologist. Now a lesson on PhD vs. SiD: "The doctorate is actually a Doctor of Science (D.Sc.) versus a Ph.D. but it's essentially the same thing in terms of meaning and respect” (George Washington University InfoSec); and - the doctoral degree granted by the Graduate School of Engineering and Applied Science at Washington University in St. Louis has generated many complaints because it is a DSc degree instead of the more prestigious PhD degree. Check out universities – most professors in the sciences have PhD’s.
#69041
News. +0; Sun, 2007-04-15 03:32; for readers
News (not verified)
For other readers out there, the statement above is entirely false (perhaps knowingly), as even a tiny bit of thought or googling will show. There were at least 50 ahead of him, many of whom who actually took a climatology class. Anyone in science knows that the first of anything didn't happen as recently as the 1980s. His PhD (no, not a Doctor of Science) thesis papers refer to some of those previous PhD's in climatology in Canada.

"First of all, Tim Ball's PhD in geography was entirely appropriate and his dissertation on the climate changes in Canada did indeed make him the first climatology PhD in Canada." (false)
#69048
News. +0; Sun, 2007-04-15 03:33; hint
News (not verified)
Also try googling "Jens Rathenau". No such.
#68296
Kevin McConathy. +0; Sat, 2007-04-14 14:23; Global Warming
Kevin McConathy (not verified)
Why is it that when I read Richard Littemore, I can visualize little balls of spittle spraying all over his keyboard? Perhaps in an act of journalistic balance you might consider investigating the background of James Hanson the "esteemed" climatologist of NASA and backer of global warming. He possesses absolutely no credentials in the field of climatology whatsoever. He has degrees in Physics, Mathematics and Astronomy. His main claim to fame regarding climate is his work on computer models supposedly for predicting future climate. Never mine the fact that his models can't even accurately predict the past. Pretty bad! But I'm sorry. The debate is over. It's all settled. A consensus has emerged. The skeptics must be silenced or, if they persist, destroyed. Especially if they are funded by the wrong people (Big Oil, Big Car or Big Cow).
#79635
John N. +0; Fri, 2007-05-04 08:41; Global Warming
John N (not verified)
I find the whole desmogblog concept to be repulsive, that David Suzuki regularly advertizes for these guys makes it even worse. If Tim Ball is a stooge of the oil, tobacco, mexican food, (insert industry here) because he recieved, at arms length, some travel money or whatever, then David Suzuki is likewise a stooge having recieved money from Encana and ATCO, two of the big players in Canadian oil and gas. Now whatever Suzuki says must be stopped or shouted down by the same illogic that Littlemore uses here. And BTW, you smog-guys might do some homework, the Ostrich is not the national bird of Australia, the Emu is. Its a simple mistake that any first grader could make, we expect more from pillars of truth and wisdom.
#79841
John N. +0; Fri, 2007-05-04 11:46; Littlemore
John N (not verified)
As it turns out, Richard Littlemore has no training in science, his bio reads:

"Educated at Nipissing University College (English and Psychology), the University of Western Ontario (Law for the Journalist), UBC (Economics and Art History) and Simon Fraser University (Japanese Language Studies), Richard spends his spare time chasing children"...

It is unclear whether Mr. Littlemore recieved any degree or diploma, we must assume that he did not as it is not stated but that may be just an oversight.
A scan of 22,000 peer reviewed papers shows Littlemore as having 0 articles on climate or climate change. Therefore, he has no credibility to speak to the science.

#99897
beam. +0; Thu, 2007-06-21 00:06; Peer reviewed what?
beam (not verified)
Peer review means little or nothing when it comes to true "scientific" knowledge. Case in point, Dr. Hwang of South Korea fooled the peer review system for almost 4 years before the yarn started to unravel. The peer review system is just another way of information control. I know a grad student who could not get his thesis past his college adviser who constantly told him that he could not write. What did the grad student do? He submitted his work to a "peer reviewed" journal who promptly published it. Interesting that he could not write well enough for his adviser but that the peer reviewed journal of psychology he submitted it to published it. Nice that his adviser, who probably would have put his own name on that research work if said grad student hadn't published it first, got so mad about the publication that the grad student had to leave the school. How many professors are lording knowledge because grad students do not agree with them. The peer review system is just a gate keeper system and unfortunately many of the gate keepers do not seek truth but to stroke their own overstuffed egos. Unfortunately too many that have acquired the status of Ph.D. assume they are gods. When it comes to global warming half the problem is that people who have no scientific training are being fed a line by people like yourself. Then they have no method of validating it. How many would be global climate propagaters have even as much knowledge as I do. I am trained in computer science with a degree from Montana State University. In my coursework I was required to take a full year of physics, calculus, logic, and probability. Along the way I also studied molecular biology and Chemistry. What I have learned about the scientific process and read in the reports from the IPCC leads me to wonder whose agenda is being pushed. "Theories" are being pushed without validation. Not one of the models used to sound the alarm has been shown to predict anything with any accuracy at all. It is just assumed to be true. In the real "scientific" world, tests must prove the hypothesis before it is considered theory. I'll leave this argument with one last note of interest. I read interesting research that the Antarctic ice shelves are actually increasing in mass. http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V9/N35/C1.jsp
#79845
John N. +0; Fri, 2007-05-04 11:51; Global Warming
John N (not verified)
Kevin,

James Hansen is one of the "good guys" he doesn't need a degree in climatology, proctology would have been good enough. Just because he has been paid by John Kerry's wife through the Heinze Foundation shouldn't make you question his motives, he's a truth speaker.

Oh ya, Jimmy says the new flood height will be 80 feet, not 20, Al's still working on the powerpoint slides.
#127686
JimC. +0; Fri, 2007-10-26 04:17; Well, I saw Tim Ball last
JimC (not verified)

Well, I saw Tim Ball last nite, and I can tell you honestly, he comes across a whole lot better than your blog.

"It must be soul-destroying to see a long-retired geographer who rarely published during his colourless academic career and who never conducted any research in atmospheric science dismiss that effort without a shred of evidence or a hint of good conscience."

Sorry - what were your qualifications in science again?

" But how can you argue science with someone who doesn't feel bound by the limits of truth?"

Exactly.

#133038
Shorebreak. +0; Sun, 2007-11-18 18:15; Convenient Untruth
Shorebreak (not verified)

I'm the guy behind Convenient Untruth, but why do you call me right wing? I hope you understand that, just as you don't necessarily have to be liberal to have been hoodwinked by the hoax that is anthropomorphic global warming, you don't have to be right-wing to realize it *is* a hoax.

Take your labeling machine and use it to pry your eyes open!

#199984
rob peters. +0; Sat, 2008-03-08 13:08; I took a course from Prof.
rob peters (not verified)

I took a course from Prof. Tim Ball at the University of Wpg and he taught climatology.

About the climate cover-up

About the climate cover-up

Democracy is utterly dependent upon an electorate that is accurately informed. In promoting climate change denial (and often denying their responsibility for doing so) industry has done more than endanger the environment. It has undermined democracy.

There is a vast difference between putting forth a point of view, honestly held, and intentionally sowing the seeds of confusion. Free speech does not include the right to deceive. Deception is not a point of view. And the right to disagree does not include a right to intentionally subvert the public awareness.

Although all public relations professionals are bound by a duty to not knowingly mislead the public, some have executed comprehensive campaigns of misinformation on behalf of industry clients on issues ranging from tobacco and asbestos to seat belts.

Lately, these fringe players have turned their efforts to creating confusion about climate change. This PR campaign could not be accomplished without the compliance of media as well as the assent and participation of leaders in government and business.

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