Lord Monckton Brands Australian Climate Advisor a Nazi

Fri, 2011-06-24 14:42Graham Readfearn
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Lord Monckton Brands Australian Climate Advisor a Nazi

Lord Christopher Monckton's Nazi slur

NEVER a stranger to controversy or a fossil-fuel funded think-tank, Scotland-based British peer Lord Christopher Monckton has been caught jumping the proverbial climate denial shark just weeks before a nationwide tour of Australia.

In a conference speech in Los Angeles earlier this month, Lord Monckton compared the Australian Government’s climate change policy advisor Professor Ross Garnaut to a Nazi, saying his views were “fascist”.

In order to ram his rhetorical point home into the darkened Californian conference hall, Lord Monckton displayed a very large Nazi swastika next to a quote from Professor Garnaut, whose reports have been informing the Government’s position as it attempts to introduce a price on carbon.

News of the insult on ABC website The Drum sparked blanket newspaper and television coverage across Australia.

Labor Party leader and Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard described the comments as “grossly inappropriate”. Prominent politician and former opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull, of the conservative-leaning Liberal party, said Lord Monckton was “a vaudeville artist” with “no credibility, politically or scientifically”.

Credibility or no credibility (given his lack of science qualifications, it is most likely the latter), the Nazi slur hasn’t discouraged Lord Monckton’s backers. At least part of Lord Monckton’s trip is being paid for by the Association of Mining and Exploration Companies, which has distanced itself from the comments but confirms he will still speak at it’s annual convention on 30 June in Perth. Opposition and Liberal Party leader Tony Abbott, who has questioned the seriousness of human-caused climate change, is scheduled to open the convention.

Lord Monckton also toured Australia in early 2010, when it was revealed that mining magnate Gina Rinehart had donated funds and a member of staff to help co-ordinate the trip.

Ms Rinehart, chairman of Hancock Prospecting, was recently crowned as Australia’s wealthiest individual with recent analysis suggesting she could soon become the richest individual on the planet. As the sole owner and chairman of the iron ore and coal mining company (a position inherited from her father Lang Hancock), Ms Rinehart is estimated to be worth more than US$10 billion.

Earlier this month, it was revealed in The Age newspaper that Ms Hancock had flown at least two members of Parliament to India on her private jet to attend the wedding of a member of the Reddy family. Ms Rinehart is reportedly hoping to secure a $2 billion deal with the Reddy’s to purchase a stake in her coal mines.

After Lord Monckton’s appearance at the mining conference, he will go on to deliver the “Lang Hancock Lecture” at the University of Notre Dame, near Perth, thanks to sponsorship from Hancock Prospecting. Then it’s off for a dozen or so public talks, with tickets on sale from $25 to $60 each.

Presumably the Nazi slide will be left back at Lord Monckton’s Scottish mansion, although at least one venue - a German Club in Adelaide in South Australia - is now understandably reticent, reports AdelaideNow.

Invoking Godwin’s Law of Nazi Analogies is something of an area of expertise for Lord Monckton.

In 2009 at the UN climate conference in Copenhagen, he described one group of young climate change campaigners as the “Hitler Youth”.

Interviewed through the shaky camera hand of DeSmogBlog’s own Brendan DeMelle, Lord Monckton calmly explained: “The number of people being killed by this misplaced belief in climate change is if anything greater than the number of people killed by Hitler.”

Oh Lordy. Strap yourself in, Australia.

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When the right wing labels everyone to its left as a “fascist,” it can only mean one thing– the right has now moved to the right of the fascists.

Yeah, or maybe that the left are, y’know, um, fascists.

At the very least, you’re not shy about showing your Stalinist tendencies.

“Fascist” and “Left” are mutually exclusive. Calling a leftist a “fascist” is like calling a right-winger a “communist.”

It makes no sense whatsoever to anybody who actually has an inkling of what those terms mean.

Mutually exclusive, and yet … completely synonymous.

The left prefer to think of themselves as “Stalinists”, because it sounds much nicer.

But in the final analysis, leftists like Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, and Kim Il Sung, killed and imprisoned millions and millions more than all the fascists that ever existed, put together.

So, you see, the left are insulted when you confuse them with amateurs like fascists – the left wants to be recognized for the professional killers and thugs they are.

Nazi’s gassed people didn’t they?

hm did you notice Jill Singer’s solution to the climate debate?

“- put your strong views to the test by exposing yourselves to high concentrations of either carbon dioxide or some other colourless, odourless gas - say, carbon monoxide.

You wouldn’t see or smell anything. Nor would your anti-science nonsense be heard of again. How very refreshing.”

And that’s what she’s pointing out– the “experts” who deny global warming are parroting the propaganda of the people who are gassing the planet.

What did you call those people again?

Oh yeah, “Nazis.”

shes suggesting suicide. I guess its to make some kind of point, but when people start saying the death of their opponents in debate is the solution, an important line is being crossed.

And here I thought the line had been crossed when the people gassing our planet resorted to The Big Lie so they could keep on gassing the planet.

What a moron!

He makes idiots look clever.

I feel so genuinely sorry for the Austrailians.
They may be in in store for a raping similar to what has been done to the british.
The Climate Nutbars are doing everything in their power to destroy the countries economy in an effort to force socialism on them.

So Sad. And surprising. The Auzzies used to be too strong to be pushed around by Fasciests…..

Good on Moncton for putting the situation in proper perspective.

And Thank God We have a Conservative majoity or we may have been next for subjugation by these idiots.

“So Sad. And surprising. The Auzzies used to be too strong to be pushed around by Fasciests…..

Good on Moncton for putting the situation in proper perspective.

And Thank God We have a Conservative majoity or we may have been next for subjugation by these idiots.”

It is pretty much only in Australia, Canada and the U.S.A where the conservatives are opposed to AGW. That is because those countries have some of the biggest fossil fuel deposits and companies in the western world. The conservative parties in those countries are funded by the fossil fuel industry, so its natural for them to be opposed to AGW.

The conservatives in the rest of the world have been able to get down to their core values when not in the pocket of the fossil fuel industry. That’s support business, not just one type of business and to be conservative, by conserving what we have. They trust the science and have adopted measures to combat AGW in their countries. The U.K, N.Z, Germany and France are good examples of this.

By the way, good to see you on DEsmogblog Graham.

It’s not for nothing that the Desmogblog logo features a guy in a black uniform giving a Nazi salute.

This, of course, being the same Lord Monckton who handed Desmogblog’s own Richard Littlemore’s alarmist ass to him in a public debate.

Relive the comedy here: http://libertynewscentral.blogspot.com/2008/08/monckton-vs-littlemore-debate-audio.html

Yes, Monckton does public speaking very well. Unfortunately for him, he doesn’t do science well.

When it comes to science, Monckton has had his arse handed to him many times.

http://www.stthomas.edu/engineering/jpabraham/

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton_Myths.htm

Oh…..did I mention Monckton has had no peer reviewed material published in any major journals?………Ouch.

Neither has Al Gore, Littleton, or David Suzuki.

None of them claim to be holding “the truth”. They openly admit they rely on the knowledge of actual climate scientists. Monckton claims to have refuted climate scientists, but repeatedly fails when somebody scrutinises his claims.

David Suzuki has had peer reviewed papers published in journals, 60 seconds on google scholar showed otherwise.

Facism is an abberation of the right. If you think otherwise, we have the words of an expert.

Mussolini, the Fascist dictator of WW2 Italy described fascism as the merger of corporate and state interests.

Case closed.

Case not closed.

The merge of state and corporate interests is accomplished by leftist fascists by “Nationalizing” corporations.

Hmmm I seem to recall one or two NDP Fascists pushing that idea.

“The merge of state and corporate interests is accomplished by leftist fascists ”

You still don’t understand what fascism is do you? Someone explained it to you above. Calling a leftists a fascist is akin to calling a republican/conservative a communist. They are polar opposites. You have been brainwashed.

“by “Nationalizing” corporations.”

Provide an example of where that is happening & how it could possibly occur on a country sized scale. Even China doesn’t do it & they are a communist state.

Correct.

Fascism is about corporatizing the government, not nationalizing corporations. They are polar opposite actions.

There are approximately 165 plus reasons why a carbon pollution industry funded quisling called Christopher Monckton spouts head in the sand fallacious science free propaganda about the real world, as all good skeptical scientists would say:-http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

Beware the merchants of doubt:-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXyTpY0NCp0

Why a very small minority cannot handle the truth: the psychology of belief:-http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/culture/video-why-you-cant-handle-the-truth-the-psychology-of-denial/9923/

The Monckton Myths:-http://www.skepticalscience.com/Monckton_Myths.htm

Thus we come to the cross roads of life! We have but two choices today and only two!

Choose your garden path wisely, for those who will be living in the year 2100, will be very dependent on the choice we make in the year 2011!

Or, do we do the right thing, because it is the right thing to do, as those who live in Europe and Germany are now doing, as we speak about a false debate to avoid reality?

Climate Change Denial: Heads in the Sand:-http://www.skepticalscience.com/Climate-Change-Denial-book.html

Small minirity?

Are you refering to the 53 IPCC members that made up the Mythical Concensus?

Or the 35000 Scientists that signed a statement that they did not believe the CAGW Myth?

just looking for clerity.

This so-called “statement” has been proven to be a fraud and many of the so-called experts who sponsored it have no credibility. There are thousands of scientists that support the consensus view and multiple lines of evidence supporting it. If you read this blog you have ready access to this information.

People who diss the IPCC should bear in mind that that body is a UN inter-governmental panel. This means that every signatory government had to sign off on the report - including nations like the USA with Bush as President. If that watered down assessment says we have a problem then a really balanced report, using current information and not 6 year old studies would show that things are actually worse than they believed back in 2007 (when the 2008 report was being written).

As for people who worry about the horrors of socialism (gasp!) caused by constructive climate policies just imagine how much fun government-run food rationing might be in 10 years time. Sorry no steak for you - we’re diverting feed grain to human consumption. That’s what we “leftists” are worried about - how do the horrors of “leftist” climate policy compare with that - I don’t see any comparison at all.

anonymous is full of it. Mostly full of disinformation and

“53 IPCC members that made up the Mythical Concensus?”

Really?

Climate Scientists Defend IPCC Peer Review as Most Rigorous in History
by Stacy Feldman - Feb 26th, 2010

Nicholls, a professor at Monash University in Victoria, Australia, said the IPCC 2007 Fourth Assessment report was subjected to several rigorous tiers of review. The study cites over 10,000 papers from the scientific literature, “most of which have already been through the peer-review process to get into the scientific literature.”

The report went through four separate reviews and received 90,000 comments from 2,500 reviewers, all of which are publicly available, along with the responses of the authors, Nicholls said.

http://solveclimate.com/blog/20100226/climate-scientists-defend-ipcc-peer-review-most-rigorous-history

The 10,000 papers are from about 2005 or previous. There are now thousands more.
The science has only gotten stronger.

Oh no, another phony list of how many scientists disagree with IPCC
So far they are batting zero on credibility and the ability to count.

Here are the two professional scientific organizations that agree with anonymous the denier.

The American Association of Petroleum Geologists
The Canadian Associsation of Petroleum Geologists

And here is the list of professional scientific organizations that agree with the IPCC

National Academy of Sciences (U.S.)

NASA

Woods Hole Resesarch Center

US Geological Survey (USGS)

National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)

NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS)

American Association of State Climatologists

Federal Climate Change Science Program, 2006 (the study authorized by the Bush administration, and then Edited by a Petroleum Institute lawyer under the Bush administration, to water it down)

American Chemical Society - (world’s largest scientific organization with over 155,000 members)

Geological Society of America

American Geophysical Union (AGU)

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)

American Association of State Climatologists

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)

American Astronomical Society

American Institute of Physics

American Meteorological Society (AMS)

American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)

Stratigraphy Commission - Geological Society of London - (The world’s oldest and the United Kingdom’s largest geoscience organization)

Chinese Academy of Sciences

Royal Society, United Kingdom

Russian Academy of Sciences

Royal Society of Canada

Science Council of Japan

Australian Academy of Sciences

Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts

Brazilian Academy of Sciences

Caribbean Academy of Sciences

French Academy of Sciences

German Academy of Natural Scientists

Indian National Science Academy

Indonesian Academy of Sciences

Royal Irish Academy

Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy)

Academy of Sciences Malaysia

Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand

Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

Union of Concerned Scientists

The Institution of Engineers Australia

Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)

National Research Council

Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospherice Sciences

World Meteorological Organization

State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC)

International Council on Science

American Physical Society (APS)

Australian Institute of Physics (AIP

European Physical Society

European Science Foundation

Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies (FASTS

Polish Academy of Sciences (PAN)

Network of African Science Academies

International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences (CAETS

European Academy of Sciences and Arts

InterAcademy Council (IAC)

International Arctic Science Committee

Arctic Council

European Federation of Geologists (EFG)

European Geosciences Union (EGU)

Geological Society of Australia

International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics

National Association of Geoscience Teachers (NAGT

Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

Royal Meteorological Society (UK)

American Quaternary Association (AMQUA

American Institute of Biological Sciences

American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians (AAWV

American Society for Microbiology

Institute of Biology (UK)

Society of American Foresters (SAF

given that list, you might think we would be a bit further along in the whole “save the planet” bit.

Everybody that matters agrees with the IPCC and determines…. to give the whole subject lip service and get down to the business of ignoring the IPCC

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