“Computer models used to forecast climate decades from now are based on the same fundamentals as models used to predict next week’s weather.
No sensible person would bet on a seven-day weather forecast so why should Canada wager billions on what the models predict for a century from now?”This quote, from an opinion page submission written by Tom Harris and Tim Ball, has a tempting ring of truth to it. (Stephen Colbert calls it “truthiness:” something that may not actually be correct but which nevertheless feels right.) Still, the statement is silly.
In a Calgary Sun column today, noted atmospheric scientist and IPCC author, Dr. Andrew Weaver, slams the so-called climate change “skeptics.”
“The enduring debate – such as it is, particularly in Alberta – over the role humans play in global warming – is so divorced from scientific literature as to be a discourse from a distant age or orbit,” says Weaver.
The Sierra Club of B.C. has committed the biggest climate change-related PR blunder of the year with a press release and (very cool) internet graphic showing Victoria, the capital city of British Columbia, drowning under sea-level rises of six to 25 metres.
The latest estimates of pending climate catastrophe suggest that a six-metre sea-level rise is possible by the time our grandchildren are facing down old age. But a 25-metre rise is likely hundreds of years away, even in a worst case scenario. Suggesting otherwise merely gives ammunition to the deniers who say (accurately in this case) that crazed environmentalists are stirring up public hysteria without any regard for scientific fact.
There was a letter in the Victoria Times Colonist today from Dr. Andrew Weaver, Professor and Canada research chairman, climate modelling and analysis, University of Victoria.
The letter backs up most of what Richard writes in his post.
Here 's a bit of pathos, the lonely lament of a couple of public relations has-beens who can no longer get anyone (other than Financial Post Editor Terence Corcoran) to answer their phone calls.The mournful victims here are Dr. Tim Ball and Tom Harris (right), the nominal brains behind the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP, or Not Really Science People). In this article, printed in the business pages of the National Post, Ball and Harris complain that, even among Canadian Conservatives, “open discussion of the vast uncertainties (my emphasis) in climate change science has been declared off-limits.” Which is to say, the Tories no longer invite industry-funded climate-change deniers like Tim Ball to their policy sessions.
Climate denier, retired geography professor and chair of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP or Not Really Science People), Dr. Tim Ball, has been less in evidence lately: perhaps Canada's biggest media company (CanWest Global) is reticent to publish his meanderings after being added to the lawsuit against University of Lethbridge Professor (and defender of truth) Dan Johnson.
But apparently Ball is still chatting with the converted, spreading disinformation and (this is juicy) claiming that we at the DeSmogBlog are tracking his mail.We have received this excerpt from a ClimateSceptics listserv which you can only access with an account. (We don't have one, but it would appear from the anonymous hits in our inbox that at least a couple of actual skeptics do.)