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Stern Responses Show Economics as a Form of Brain Damage

By spending less on curbing CO2 now, according to some economists, we will be richer in the future and thereby better able to pay for mitigating climate change then. Spending on climate abatement must be weighed against other social costs, they say.

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#35320
DEW. +0; Thu, 2007-02-22 10:13; Pseudo-science
DEW (not verified)
Economics is definitely a useful and worthwhile discipline, but it's basically a pseudo-science. If we can't trust climatologists to forecast the weather, how much less can we trust economists to forecast the economic implications? I wonder how economic models would handle events like WWII...
#35596
Johan i Kanada. +0; Thu, 2007-02-22 14:36; Exactly
Johan i Kanada (not verified)
we cannot forecast the wheather, and certainly not the climate. One thing professional economists usually knows is how to use statistical methods, which is something Mann et al has proven is not the case for climatologists.
#35692
Ian Forrester. +1; Thu, 2007-02-22 15:30; Wrong again Johan

J I K, have you actually read the NAS report? If you had you would not keep on making these erroneous statements.

As for predicting the weather, I was just watching the Weather Channel and they said we were in for a really bad spell of weather. They were exactly right, one of the worst spells of weather I have seen in a long time.

#36278
Johan i Kanada. +0; Thu, 2007-02-22 20:57; Have you read
Johan i Kanada (not verified)
the Wegman testimony and subsequent response to Stupak's questions? Manns' methodology is basically made fun of.
#36283
Zag it. +0; Thu, 2007-02-22 23:14; So sick of this red herring
Zag it (not verified)
Seriously, I am almost getting sick of saying it. LOOK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png How many studies and certainties is it going to take? Get over the hockey stick study for god's sake. It was one study 7 bloody years ago. And look at the graph above, there have been all sorts of studies that have confirmed the hypothesis. Get your heads out of your asses and smell the C02.....
#36539
Johan i Kanada. +0; Fri, 2007-02-23 09:20; But the WC propaganda
Johan i Kanada (not verified)
is still using the hockeystick desinformation, so any critisism of Mann is entirely appropriate.
#36591
Ian Forrester. +1; Fri, 2007-02-23 09:56; It is not disinformation

J I K, the only disinformation which surrounds the hockey stick data is the disinformation and outright lies put out by the AGW deniers. Please go to a remedial English comprehension class and then re-read the NAS report. Then take a science remedial class so that you will understand some basic scientific terms such as truth, facts and honesty.

Didn't your mother teach you about truth and honesty when you were growing up?

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Johan i Kanada. +0; Sun, 2007-02-25 13:34; Ian, come now,
Johan i Kanada (not verified)
there is no need to get upset. I understand it is hard to accept that not everyone has conformed to the desmogblog dogma. But please, try to stay civil, will you?
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