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The Storm-Rankled Donald Trumps Al Gore's Snow Job

Donald Trump has called for Al Gore to be stripped of the Nobel Peace prize he was awarded for campaigning on climate change. The billionaire tycoon said record-breaking snow storms proved that the former US Vice-President was wrong on global warming, and that policies aimed at tackling carbon emissions were harming America's economy.

 

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#712928
Emily Murgatroyd. +1; Tue, 2010-02-16 08:40; Science as an opinion.
What I find so amazing Ross is that this articles closes by saying:

"This week the unit's former head Professor Phil Jones, performed a major u-turn and admitted there had been no 'statistically significant' global warming in the last 15 years."

When in fact, The Mail chose to run only part of his response. What Professor Jones actually said, when asked by the BBC, "Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming"

His FULL answer was....

"Yes, but only just. I also calculated the trend for the period 1995 to 2009. This trend (0.12C per decade) is positive, but not significant at the 95% significance level. The positive trend is quite close to the significance level. Achieving statistical significance in scientific terms is much more likely for longer periods, and much less likely for shorter periods."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8511670.stm

The two critical problems here are both the egregious selection of only partial quotes by media to make their stories more sensational, flaunting their bias and stunning lack of factual reporting coupled with the fact that the general public are completely unfamiliar with the scientific process and hence likely to get their information from exactly what they read.

Luckily, because of the nature of my job - I dig a little a bit when I see something that looks off. Unfortunately, and through no fault of their own, the general public reading an article rife with misquotes and inaccuracies, do not have the time or inclination to do so, trusting that what they read is true.

This is grossly irresponsible journalism without conscience, without integrity and with high, high stakes. I recently heard somebody say that "science is now an opinion". I couldn't agree more....nor could I be more frightened.

#712929
VJ. +1; Tue, 2010-02-16 10:24; Agreed
VJ

Amen to that. Speaking of irresponsible journalism, Margaret Wente also repeats the Phil Jones story without understanding it today.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/the-science-isnt-settled-now-what/article1469050/

Realclimate deals with that here:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/daily-mangle/

Tamino explains why 15 years is not long enough:
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/how-long/#more-2124

This blogger has several links:
http://initforthegold.blogspot.com/2010/02/journalism.html

And Deltoid:
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2010/02/daily_mail_caught_in_another_l.php

As a non-statistician, I would explain it to other people who do not understand statistics by saying Jones was speaking in Statistic, not in English.

#712930
Harmen. +1; Tue, 2010-02-16 11:58; Looks like an orchestrated attack on Phil Jones..

The Daily mail is one of the most vicious anti science propaganda rags around..

Daily Mangle
— group @ 15 February 2010
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/daily-mangle/

And again the Fox spins the same nonsense, the same day..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYwX0KCIm-8
Coincidence? i find that hard to belief..

On a positive note,

ABC had one of the best climate change interviews i have seen on US main stream television..
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/tipping-point-climate-change-9847648?tab=9482931&section=1206840&playlist=4806546

#712931
jaimehlers. +1; Tue, 2010-02-16 14:46; I read a science fiction

I read a science fiction story written decades ago which dealt with the use of 'science' to disprove something that was manifestly true, merely because the 'scientists' didn't want to admit they were wrong. I use quotes because they were missing one of the biggest qualities of real scientists - they were unwilling to admit they were wrong, and used PR campaigns to 'prove' it.

How does this apply to the global climate change 'controversy' going on today? Simply, I believe that many of the people arguing against it are not doing so because they understand the science, but because they are unwilling to accept the related consequences if global climate change is demonstrated to be true. As a result, they are treating this like an extended PR or political campaign and attacking the people who are actually trying to take positive steps, accusing them of fraud or worse, and trying to claim the evidence is either made up or has been tampered with.

My personal feeling on this is that people need to consider which side will have the worse consequences if it is wrong. If the GCC proponents are wrong, I believe the worst that can happen are economic consequences, which are hardly trivial but can be worked around with American ingenuity. Whereas if the GCC critics are wrong, we may very well end up with economic consequences that are just as bad if not worse, not to mention all the human consequences as weather becomes more and more unstable.

#712941
Moth. +1; Wed, 2010-02-17 14:09; On the topic

Hi, I know you're regulating comment posts currently, but on learning about Trumps comments, I created this comic;
http://mothincarnate.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/a-warm-fuzzy-forecast-8a-disproof/
feel free to use it if you like it.
:-)

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