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Summer Reading

DeSmog fans will likely know about Tim Lambert at Deltoid - a smart Australian scientist who does fabulous work debunking some of the ridiculous denier talking points. But he has recently been pointing to some outspoken scientist contributors who are also raising the bar on climate debate: Robert Grumbine (Penguindreams ) at MoreGrumbineScience, and Tamino, who plays the deniers for fools at Open Mind. (Hat tip to VJ).

These guys are adding significantly to the quality science debunking that we have come to expect from RealClimate, the kind of stuff that leaves the deniers sputtering because, well, it's all about science and they're, well, not.

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Brian D. +0; Thu, 2008-08-07 15:22; Support for Open Mind
Brian D (not verified)

Tamino's is not just an excellent climate resource, but an excellent statistical one as well. He manages to explain everything from autocorrelation to principal components analysis in ways even a casual reader can follow. He even provides direct links to the full datasets, so folks can acquire them themselves and test his claims. (Hint: Gary, you'd do well to learn what Excel's LINEST function does.)

It's also hilarious to see someone skilled at both statistics AND communication (Tamino's a professional statistician specializing in time series analysis) take repeated inane but scientific-sounding claims and basically bend them over the desk. Antony Watts makes these statements with (un)surprising regularity.

I'm posting a reply to this with an in-depth sample of what I consider the 'best of Tamino'; it's in a secondary reply because there's a load of links and I'd rather not have this part of the message choked up in moderation.

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Carl S. +0; Thu, 2008-08-07 17:08; In regards to Watts ""he
Carl S (not verified)

In regards to Watts

""he just made outlandish nutjob suggestions like “sheds doubt on … Anthropogenic accumulation”. No, it doesn’t, and there’s really NO DOUBT that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are accumulating in the atmosphere. None. If you doubt that, you’re not a skeptic: you’re a nutjob.""

I really liked this quote from Tamino, made me laugh pretty good....considering how ROB has continiously posted otherwise. Well ROB you are a nutjob according to Tamino.....just wanted to share that with everyone who wasnt still in doubt of this point.

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Richard Littlemore. +1; Fri, 2008-08-08 08:13; Best of Tamino?

Appears to have got lost in the shuffle. If you have trouble posting, please email me at rlittlemore@hoggan.com and I'll help out.

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Brian D. +0; Fri, 2008-08-08 11:56; Further reading
Brian D (not verified)

I forgot to mention this one earlier.

http://cce.890m.com/

cce's done a spectacular job covering nearly all of the science, non-science, and nonsense associated with this debate, punctuated with the reasons why we're running out of time. He does so in a clear, concise and thorough fashion.

For instance, Just take a look at his example in the introduction, which takes the "volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans" claim and traces it back through the PR echo chamber to its original source (which may surprise some viewers), along with comparisons to what the actual statements of the experts involved were and links to how far this distortion has propogated. All the way along he cites his sources and provides direct links to the references, showing how easy it is to do a bit of investigation into his, and others', claims.

The entire presentation is like that, and I highly, HIGHLY recommend it, in much the same fashion that I recommend Oreskes' now-famous "American Denial of Global Warming" lecture/video. cce is also preparing these as scripts for a video presentation; one exists of an earlier draft already, with this site serving as the next revision.

Check it out.

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Gary. +0; Fri, 2008-08-08 16:54; And If you believe that...
Gary (not verified)

Try this one.
It reads just the same and is equal in scientific validity.
http://www.badarchaeology.net/confused/creation_science.php

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Robert Grumbine. +0; Sun, 2008-08-10 03:09; A summer tempest brews
Robert Grumbine (not verified)

Thank you for the kind words. Readers might be interested in the little tempest I now have. Bleah. Try to talk about science and have to deal with tempests instead.

Last week I wrote a short note (you should see what I consider long :-) about icecap.us. Well, the owner has taken exception as of last night with a lengthy rant (his word) about me (at least it's supposed to me, but he also talks a lot about Real Climate, which I'm not). Along the way, he commits a new raft of errors. My response to that is now up.

I encourage folks to read all four articles (fourth being D'Aleo's original). If you think I'm the one who made the error, post a comment over on my blog so I'll be sure to see it. Do, as I'd like on my site, support your argument with substance rather than invective and links to science.

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Robert Grumbine. +0; Sun, 2008-08-10 03:12; typo fix
Robert Grumbine (not verified)

That last sentence should read:
Do, as I'd like on my site, support your argument with substance rather than invective, and links to science.

i.e., links to substantive sources are welcome. Keep the numbers reasonable too. (I'd dropped the comma from my typing.)

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