"The Great Global Warming Swindle"

So why does Lindzen sound so much like Peter Duesberg, the Richard Lindzen of AIDS denialism. Duesberg is also a member of the US National Academy of Sciences and he did important early work on retroviruses. According to Duesberg

HIV is harmless, a mere "passenger" virus ..."To pretend to think that HIV causes AIDS is politically correct, socially attractive and very,very fundable"... even in "the freest of all countries, as George Bush calls the US, nonconformists are excommunicated at all social and scientific levels"

They bought the same hymnal and are about as trustworthy.

Here is the full program. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638&q=great+glob... 1 hr 16 minutes, and worth every minute of it. There is an easier way to dismiss the program than to smear all the scientists as liars without evidence, you could explain why AGW's central hypothosis, that the troposphere will warm first, and then the surface, has *not* been proven false. I see a lot of references to Dr Tim Ball lying about his credentials. He himself says that he has recieved many death threats as well, but I haven't seen any actual evidence of lies or misrepresentations on his part. One of the central points of the program is that many scientists who have resigned in disgust from the IPCC still have their names listed as part of the "consensus". One even had to threaten legal action to have his name removed for the list of climatologists who supported the AGW theory.

I am not surprised to see reports that this documentary does some fast and loose editing of interviews, it has unfortunately become common place to drive the message. Look at Michael Moore and his work, he put in footage of Heston from years before Columbine to make him look worse. Consider Gore's doc about American cars not being able to be sold in China due to fuel economy even though the largest single seller of cars in China is GM. And no mention that none of those cars could be sold in the US because they fail to meet current environment standards. China is currently one standard behind the Euro's current and plans to adopt the current Euro standard when Euro adopts its next. Also Gore points to the loss of snow at Kilamanjaro as being caused by human global warming when the IPCC indicates that it is solar irradiance at the cause of it and not man made. I am not surprised that this film has also been found to misrepresent the intentions of those interviewed or the facts. It has unfortunately become common. Each side in this debate seems to be able to misuse data to their own ends and does so with the intention of manipulating our opinions. Each side indicates a destruction of the world or the economy or that it is the greatest oppurtunity. It would be really great if a few non-agenda persons with credentials in this area could speak on the topic so that when I decide how to vote I won't make a mistake. Until that time, climate change is normal as our planet's history indicates. Or as Earth says, "The more things change, the more they stay the same."