Tim Ball: Ad hominems ad nauseum

Mon, 2007-03-05 09:46Richard Littlemore
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Tim Ball: Ad hominems ad nauseum

How do you criticize politely someone who just doesn't mind whether or not he tells the truth?

The tireless Dr. Tim Ball, who will apparently go anywhdre on earth to deny climate change, has washed up on a UK television program called The Great Global Warming Swindle. Ball is heralded in the promotional material as a “Climatologist and Prof Emeritus of Geography at the University of Winnipeg.”

An Emeritus professorship is an honour that Ball neither earned nor deserves. U of Winnipeg insiders say that the university administration has specifically asked that Ball stop advertising himself as such. Clearly, to no avail.

The mystery here is not just why Ball continues to overstate his credentials. The mystery is why organizations like the Natural Resources Stewardship Project continue to associate with someone whose credibility lies in shreds. Why would the energy industry lobby firm, the High Park Group, risk embarrassing its clients by continuing their association? (Mind you, the High Park Group is sufficiently embarrassed that its website client list doesn't offer a single name, but that's another issue.)

Anyway, for an anticipatory review of the television denier-fest, check the Guardian, here .

Comments

That’s a good article from the Guardian. Not exactly my point of view but well put. I hope that Johan and some of the others who claim to see no nuance or reason in the pro-AGW stance read it…
You idiots complain about someone using “ad-hominem attacks”, and then you proceed to do that very thing yourselves. Brilliant!

“An Emeritus professorship is an honour that Ball neither earned nor deserves.”

Oh, you mean like your own Ross Gelbspan claiming he has won a Pulitzer prize, when in fact he hasn’t?

Check.

And since you obviously don’t know what the title “emeritus” means, it is a title used by a retired professional, such as Dr. Ball, not an “honour” bestowed by UofW. Given the fact that Dr. Ball taught at UofW for 25 years, and holds among his several degrees a Ph.D., it is entirely appropriate.

“U of Winnipeg insiders say that the university administration has specifically asked that Ball stop advertising himself as such.”

The fact that you don’t bother to name these mysterious “insiders” is a pretty clear indication that you have made this up. Aside from the fact that the administration hasn’t got any say in the matter of the using the honourific title emeritus, in any case.

Can you clowns be any more shameless, transparent or ham-fisted in your smear jobs? I doubt it.
Um… FYI: Wiki… emphasis mine. Professor emeritus: full professors who retire are referred to as Professores Emeriti. This title is also given to retired professors who continue to teach and to be listed; they may also draw a very large percentage of their last salary as pension (as tenure is technically for life). The concept has in some places been watered down to include also associate tenured professors; in some systems and institutions, it needs a special act or vote.
… how does this help me with my false Pulitzer claim?
I wish I could be sure but since I got to another of Manitoba’s universities I only know how our university approaches such titles. U of M only awards emeritus title to deserving people who have long standing careers, publications and public service. Ie its a very special title. I’d assume the U of W awards in a simular fasion, but I could be wrong, couldnt find any info from the U of W website.
Nonsense. Canadian and US universities award this title to specific individuals, who are listed as such.
Apparently not a U of W.
Ball is NOT listed in their PDF of emeritus.

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‘ “U of Winnipeg insiders say that the university administration has specifically asked that Ball stop advertising himself as such.”

The fact that you don’t bother to name these mysterious “insiders” is a pretty clear indication that you have made this up. Aside from the fact that the administration hasn’t got any say in the matter of the using the honourific title emeritus, in any case.’

As a recent graduate of the U of W, I can verify Richard’s statement. I will not name names, however, to protect their identities, and since we have no grand jury process here in Canada, Anonymous, you cannot coax them out of me by any means.

Anonymous, these insiders do not wish to give their names out of worry of being sued and facing legal fees as Dr. Johnson has been by Dr. Ball.

As for your outlandish claim that “the administration hasn’t got any say in the matter of the using the honourific title emeritus”, I say bollocks! The administration grants this title. It is not self-granted.

I thought that what Richard was getting at with the title of this post was: when challenging the statements of someone who continually misrepresents himself, one inevitably garners condemnation as using ad hominem attacks. Maybe Richard could set me straight on that if I’m way off. How’s that court case going, by the way, Richard? In case you didn’t know, Anonymous, Richard has posted the legal documents relating to Ball’s misrepresentations of himself. Search it up. It’s good, non-ad hominem material.
But he is still a paid liar, isn’t he?

You clearly don’t understand what an ad-hominem attack means. An attack is only ad-hominem if the attack doesn’t have any real link to the truth of claims. In this case it does, because it ruins his credibility in academia, which is the only thing that gives him any right to make scientific comments.

Interesting that neither the article making a pathetic smear against Dr. Ball, nor any of the fanatical commenters, attempt addressing Dr. Ball’s actual positions on global warming. And yet *they* claim Dr. Ball is the one guilty of ad hominem attacks.

Kinda like setting your hair on fire, and then trying to beat the flames out with a hammer.
Anybody who argues from authority is fair game to have that authority questioned. In Ball’s case it’s very easy to do, since misrepresenting himself is first, second, and third in his playbook. Challenging his actual scientific arguments is difficult, mainly becaues he makes so few of them. Instead, he makes unscientific arguments. Of these claims (with the exception of those he makes about himself), all have been addressed elsewhere. Listen to his interview with the Ottawa Citizen – he cites JunkScience.com as his source for scientific information. Do you have a favorite position of his? Look at AFewThingsIllConsidered.com and see how it is wrong.

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Richard, your comments would be funny if your motives weren’t so nasty. You label Dr. Tim Ball as a climate change denier. Perhaps you could explain how someone who has had a dinstinguished career in climate science could be a denier of climate change. The charge is absurd. Anyone with even a modest knowledge of earth sciences knows climate changes constantly – it either gets warmer or cooler. I am sure Dr. Tim Ball learned that at a very young age.

Well, Ball’s a global warming “denier” rather than a climate change “denier.” He’s said frequently and erroneously that the planet has “cooled since 1998” even after 2005 which was the hottest year on record.

His and Lindzen’s misleading comment is the worst form of cherry-picking as 1998 was a year featuring strong El Nino conditions, which typically leads to a warmer planet. Making such misleading statements alone would reduce one’s credibility.

“even after 2005 which was the hottest year on record.”

Except, it’s now 2007. If, as you claim, 2005 was the “hottest year on record”, then 2006 was not. Then, – no fidgeting! You can go out and eat bugs later – it stands to reason that 2006 was what we scientists call cooler than 2005.

What you need to understand (and here’s where it gets complicated) is that 2006 came after 2005.

Good boy. Now here’s a cookie and some more Ritalin.
What kind of scientist are you? Apparently you have no understanding of variability. Look at decadal averages or 5 year averages and you may learn something. Do you have a long attention span or short?
“Apparently you have no understanding of variability. Look at decadal averages or 5 year averages and you may learn something.”

That’s right, you stupid deniers! Don’t you know anything about variability? Look at the 5-year averages! LOOK AT THEM!!!

(Just don’t look at the 100 or 1000 year averages. That would be stupid.)
You can look at the 100 and 1000 yr averages all you want. The million yr average is also informative for some things, but not for detecting and attributing AGW. The 100 yr average will actually tell the same story as the 10 yr, but the data quality degrades as you go back in time. Longer time periods will give you very little chance to pick up anthropogenic signals, if that’s what you’re investigating.

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John: please explain how you could look up Ball’s record and call it a distinguished career. 4 peer-reviewed publications? Thank you.
Argument from Authority. Pure and simple. It’s a commonly used logical fallacy. Look it up.

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John Dowell said “Perhaps you could explain how someone who has had a dinstinguished career in climate science could be a denier of climate change”.

That is the whole point; he is not a distinguished climate scientist. He re-read a number of old journals from the Hudson Bay Company records. That means that all of his “data” are anecdotal, not experimentally derived. This works in History, Geography and other Social Sciences but not in real science. His whole “distinguished career” is a figment of his vivid imagination.

So you say he is not distinguished, Ian. I and many others think he is. Let’s just say it’s a matter of opinion. The point is ad hominem attacks are a sign of weakness and this web site goes out of its way to denigrate individuals and their reputations. Why? I think it is because the desmog people cannot deal with what people like Tim Ball say so they resort to name-calling. Anyone who does any reading at all on this topic of climate change quickly realizes that Suzuki and his fellow global warming evangelists are full of it when they claim there is a scientific concensus in favour of anthropogenic G-W. Every time Tim Ball or someone like him speaks out, that concensus claim is exposed as bogus. So these degmoggers are keen to marginalize and silence Ball and those like him. Today, the media reports that they have another dissenter to worry about – distinguished French scientist Claude Allegre. Oh wait! He is probably no longer rates the term “distinguished”, now the he has decamped from the AGW cause.

dis·tin·guished

–adjective
1. made conspicuous by excellence; noted; eminent; famous: a distinguished scholar.

2. having an air of distinction, dignity, or eminence: a distinguished old gentleman.

3. conspicuous; marked.

By that definition hes not a distinguished climate expert. To be awarded such a level of honor would actually require significant publication in peer reviewed journals. Which he hasn’t, plus making false claims of ones academic history (lengh of teaching, emeratus titles etc) would also disqualify someone from any distinguished title. You can’t manufacture your own credentials to make onces self eminent. However, that said he is a rather infamous personality, which is a much more fitting title.

So can John Dowell demonstrate how you think Tim Ball is a distinguished scientist then?

Maybe you can list some of the outstanding research Dr. Ball has done and all his contributions to science perhaps?

We can wait.

Also you think Tim Ball -who is everywhere in the media - is being silenced.

That’s really funny.

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